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Johann Michael DietschAge: 52 years17541806

Name
Johann Michael Dietsch
Given names
Johann Michael
Surname
Dietsch

Johann-Michaël Dietsch

Name
Johann-Michaël Dietsch
Given names
Johann-Michaël
Surname
Dietsch
Birth January 11, 1754 33 29

Birth of a sisterMaria-Anna Dietsch
July 11, 1756 (Age 2 years)

Death of a sisterMaria-Anna Dietsch
July 23, 1756 (Age 2 years)

Birth of a sisterAnna-Maria Dietsch
September 8, 1757 (Age 3 years)
Death of a sisterAnna Maria Dietsch
1757 (Age 2 years)

Death of a paternal grandfatherMathias Dietsch
June 6, 1759 (Age 5 years)
Note: The Bianco genealogy lists this date as 8 jun 1759.
Birth of a brotherFranz Dietsch
April 10, 1760 (Age 6 years)
Birth of a sisterMarie-Elisabeth Dietsch
April 9, 1763 (Age 9 years)

Death of a fatherJean Michel “Michel” Dietsch
June 15, 1776 (Age 22 years)
Death of a motherAnna Rohmer
May 8, 1780 (Age 26 years)

Birth of a son
#1
John Baptist Dietsch
March 23, 1803 (Age 49 years)

Number of childrenKathryn BirglerView this family
9

Death June 16, 1806 (Age 52 years)
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father
mother
Marriage: November 24, 1743
17 months
elder brother
3 years
elder brother
3 years
elder sister
3 years
himself
3 years
younger sister
14 months
younger sister
3 years
younger brother
Franz Dietsch
Birth: April 10, 1760 39 35Grussenheim, Canton of Andolsheim, Colmar, Haut-Rhin, Alsace, France
Death: April 14, 1823Grussenheim, Canton of Andolsheim, Colmar, Haut-Rhin, Alsace, France
3 years
younger sister
Family with Kathryn Birgler - View this family
himself
wife
son

NameChronicle: The Grussenheim Papers, Corrections to the English Translation
SourceChronicle: The Grussenheim Papers, English Translation
Citation details: page 16
Text:
4) Johann Michael[F20] born 9.1.1754. He died on 15.6.1776 at 22 years of age.


Note:
Introductory letter from Marg Saunders: Alice Mosley Siedelman and Barbara Mosley Peck have been working for over twenty years researching our family's history. A few others have joined with them, but the bulk of the work and time has been theirs. Recently Janet Fries of Bloomington received some very interesting papers and she passed them on to Barb and Alice. These papers are 12½ single spaced, typewritten pages. They were compiled by Abbe Raymond Seeman of Grussenheim, France. This is a part of his ongoing search for the descendants of the villagers of Grussenheim. There was only one problem with these papers. They were written in medieval and modern French and German. We tried, unsuccessfully, to find someone who would translate the papers for us. Being stubborn and naive, I decided to translate the papers myself. I was fully immerged and in eminant danger of being fully submerged, when a good friend came to my rescue. Inga Kremeyer is a well educated lady who speaks German and French. She was raised in Germany and has a good understanding of German-French history. After I had researched each word, and listed all the possible meanings, Inga and I would place ourselves mentally into the historical time frame and then Inga would translate. As she read, I would check the words against my research and sometimes I was able to correlate English words or terms that eluded Inga. There is one word that we were unable to translate: SIGRESTEN. If you know the meaning, please let us know.* I have placed this document in notebook form so that it can be expanded. When we have more information we will share it. At the end of the papers you will find a form that you can use for your own family history sheet. - I have used slash marks (/) to separate my own comments from the main body of the translations. I hope these comments and explanations will clarify the more confused parts of the papers. You will also note that the European method of dating has been used. Example: 29.5.1856, 29th of May, 1856 — day/month/year. If you can add anything to our information about our family, we would like to hear from you. ------ *As we go to the printer's, we have found the meaning of the word "Sigresten". It is of Swiss dialect, a sacristan, an officer in church entrusted with the care of the sacristy, a sexton.
Note: The footnotes in the pdf version of the document refer to the "Corrections to the Translation of the Grussenheim Papers" by Abbe Raymond Seemann. You can find that document in the Mulitmedia Object section below.
SourceChronicle: The Grussenheim Papers, Corrections to the English Translation
Citation details: page II
Text:
[F20] Page I6. Note! the fourth child of Michel Dietsch is:Johann-Michaël born II.I754.He died on 15.6.1776. at 22 years of age. Here I was wrong.I discovered my mistake only some weeks ago, searching again after the Dietsch in the Archives of Colmar and with the help of a genealogist, who did the same research as I. Johann-Michaël died not in 1776.I confused him with his father..who died really in 1776..June 15. Johann Michaël married Kathryn Birgler of Dessenhein(25 miles south from Grussenheim)and they settled in the mill of HEITEREN.They had 9 children.Johann-Michaël died I6.7.I806 in Heiteren.When the Dietsoh of the mill of Grussenheim died out I829..the 9.child of Johann-Michaël:John Baptist born 23.3.1803 became the heir of the mill of Grussenheim. He moved to Gruessen-heim and married Theresia Jehl of Ohnenheim(5 miles north from Grussenhelm) born 2I.8.I835.Alas,she died at 25 of age,after the birth of the third child. Two boys, the oldest,died at the birth..Remained one girl:Marie—Cécile-Thérèse. She married Georges Thiébaut Walter of Marokolsheim.Her father John Baptist, died 10.8.1862.So nobody could run further the mill..It has been sold..and I879,it burnt for ever.
Note:
These are Abbe Raymond Seemann's corrections to The Translation of the Grussenheim Papers, referenced in footnote form. You can find the Grussenheim Papers here: http://gene.crowley.cx/source.php?sid=S322
Note
In the original Translation, Johann Michel was said to be born 9 jan 1754 and to have died on 15 jun 1776 at age 22. In Abbe Seemann's correction, he states that he confused Johann Michel with his father, who died 15 jun 1776 and amended the dates.