Rev. John Carlisle “Boysie” RamcharanAge: 87 years1925–2012
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- Rev. John Carlisle “Boysie” Ramcharan
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- John Carlisle
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Rev. Carlisle John Ramcharan
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- Rev. Carlisle John Ramcharan
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- Carlisle John
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- Ramcharan
Birth | January 1925 25 22 Source: U.S. Public Records Index |
Death of a paternal grandmother | Miriam “Aji” Bissoonie 1931 (Age 6 years) |
Death of a paternal grandfather | Hari Govind Lal 1934 (Age 9 years) Cause: Murder by Bludgeoning Publication: Read at the XIth International Congress of Folk Narrative Research, Mysore, India, Jan. 6-12, 1995. Citation details: The Paternal Memorat Text: Some years later in 1934, he was found bludgeoned to death in his shop, with telltale human feces wrapped in paper on a nearby shelf, suggesting protective magic by the murderer, who was never found. |
Death of a maternal grandmother | Jagwanti (Agnes) “Margie Nani” Teelucksingh 1950 (Age 25 years) Address: Irving Street |
Occupation | Minister 2006 (Age 81 years)Corporation: The Episcopal Diocese of South Carolina |
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Death | 2012 (Age 87 years) |
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Lily Teelucksingh Birth: 1903 16 — California, Caroni, Trinidad and Tobago Death: Dehradun, Dehradun, Uttaranchal, India |
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Rev. John Carlisle “Boysie” Ramcharan Birth: January 1925 25 22 Death: 2012 |
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Birth | U.S. Public Records Index |
Occupation | Website: Churches in the Episcopal Diocese of South Carolina |
Name | Website: Churches in the Episcopal Diocese of South Carolina |
Note | Website: Churches in the Episcopal Diocese of South Carolina |
Note | Website: Integrity - Gay Episcopal Forum, editorial Citation details: Vol. 1 No. 10 November 1975 - Editorial Excerpt |
Source | U.S. Public Records Index Text: Name: Carlisle J Ramcharan
Birth Date: Jan 1925
Street address: 719 Boulevard St
City: Orangeburg
County: Orangeburg
State: South Carolina
Zip Code: 29115
Phone Number: 803-534-7972
Record Number: 63623880
Household Members:
Name Est. Age Birth Year
Barbara B Ramcharan 78 1928
C J Ramcharan
Carlisle J Ramcharan 82 1925 Note: Source Information:
Ancestry.com. U.S. Public Records Index [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2005. Original data: Compiled from various U.S. public records.
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The U.S. Public Records Index is a compilation of various public records spanning all 50 states in the United States from 1984 to the present. Entries in this index may contain the following information: name, street or mailing address, telephone number, birth date or birth year. |
Source | Passenger Lists, New York, 1820-1957 Text: Name: Carliela Ramcharan
Arrival Date: 12 Aug 1947
Estimated birth year: abt 1925
Age: 22
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago
Place of Origin: Great Britain
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
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Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_7442
Page Number: 147 |
Note | The Rev. C.J.Ramcharan
St. Alban's Episcopal Church
Pascallas Street
PO Box 12
Blackville, SC 29817
(803)757-2661
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Note | By his life more than by any of his very eloquent words, Carlisle Ramcharan, my very holy nonGay priest during my last months before coming-out, taught me most of what I know about real spirituality. I was not surprised when talking with him recen tly he said, "Louie, I am following INTEGRITY with great interest. I believe that I know your answer before I ask, but I ask anyway. Would you be willing for me to explain as best I can your work to my congregation here at St. Paul's in Orangeburg? You worshipped with them for many months, and all of them have seen the material in The Episcopalian. I would like for them to know so that they may have an opportunity to try to understand......" Father Ramcharan did not need to remind me: in St. Paul's are many very loving Christian people. My husband and I have found many more such loving persons right here in tiny, rural Fort Valley. No place has a monopoly on goodness, nor does any sexual orientation.
One of the attributes that I always most appreciate about Fr. Ramcharan in his spiritual dealings with me as a Gay person is the very genuine way that he never patronizes, me, at least never for my Gayness. I have always gotten from him that very rare and very Christian unspoken communication that my need is not a demand from him, but a gift to him, a gift of an opportunity to be generous. Most poignantly, most tactilely his joy in being Christian came home to me when, after being in Fort Valley as an openly Gay professor for several months I had the opportunity to hear Fr. Ramcharan speak to our faculty and students, whom he had served many years ago as an Episcopal chaplain. I came into the room excited by the opportunity and prepared to sit at the back. He left the respectable nonGay officials and came over with obvious concern for having the opportunity to see me again and embraced me. I tried to whisper, "But Father, you should not run this kind of risk....." but the love in his eyes and the strength in his arms told me more than his silence I was very safely in the embrace of a power of more than human making. Clearly he had a different understanding of risk, and preferred the Kingdom of God.
There is not one Gay hormone in Fr. Ramcharan's body, or is there even the germ of homophobia. Surely only those comfortable and mature in their own sexuality can welcome and affirm the sexuality of others. Surely only those confident and deep in their own spirituality can welcome and affirm the spirituality of others.
Married and loved outside my own race, I have had the special blessing to share in loving outsiders' perspectives on us white folks. To folks who have mopped our floors, cleaned our bathrooms, built our buildings, raised our children, nursed us through our darkest hours, we have often given the least edited versions of ourselves. Our maids and menservants can often add the breath to the icon, sometimes sourly and sometimes sweetly.
Being a Gay Christian stalking our Church, speaking to scores of bishops, priests, and laypersons, is very much like that too. We smell the breaths of the nonGay icons, sometimes sour and sometimes sweet. May the Lord raise up many more like Carlisle Ramcharan. |